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The dark history of Halloween

“This is something that’s happening every Halloween.”

“It’s quite ironic how one group of people are thinking it’s fun, and another group of people are taking human life, and yet there seems to be this wall, and nobody wants to face the facts of what’s really going on because it is dark, it is negative and what you think is just fun gives massive power to those who rule over us. While they torture and sacrifice children a frenzy, the people celebrate it in the streets.”

Former Satanist, Glenn Hobbs

While there are some people who may be concerned about the origins of halloween and it’s focus on blood, death, horror and the occult, to millions of youngsters across the nation it has been adopted as a time to pursue scary fun. It is an opportunity to dress up in ghoulish or fanciable costumes, to engage in the fantasy of being a witch or a vampire, ghost or devil. Eager “trick-or-treaters” solicit candy door to door or bob for apples at Halloween parties. Others brave haunted houses and horror movie marathons, while the more daring visit cemeteries at midnight, play with ouija boards and hold séances in an effort to contact spirits of the dead.

One of the biggest promoters of halloween is the public school system. School sponsored halloween-themed activities often include dances, costume contests, carnivals and arts and crafts projects.

When you hear the word “halloween” what images appear? What “spirit” is invoked at the whisper of Halloween? Halloween openly promotes death, devils, witches and flagrant “appearances of evil” (1 Thess. 5:22). Halloween leaves most people scratching their heads questioning, “How and where did Halloween come from”? This article unearths the hellish tomb of Halloween to exhume its sinister “covenant with death and hell.”

Halloween began over 2,000 years ago among the Celts and their pagan priests called the Druids. The Druids are, without question, history’s king of the occult. Witchcraft, Satanism, paganism and virtually all facets of the occult acquire instruction from the Druids. From the popular jack-o’-lantern, trick-or-treat, costumes, to the pranks, ghoulish ghosts, demons, goblins and witches – Halloween owes its morbid birth to the Druids.

Halloween—the day itself is of Druidic origin. (Myers, Robert J. Celebrations: The Complete Book of American Holidays, p. 258)

The mystic rites and ceremonies with which Hallow’en was originally observed had their origin among the Druids. . . (Douglas, George William. The American Book of Days, p. 566)

The Druids celebrated two special nights of the year: Beltane and Samhain. Beltane took place on May 1 and marked the birth of summer. Samhain occurred on November 1 and signified the death of summer. Samhain, a night celebrating death and hell, was the Druids most important ritual. It was a terrifying night of human sacrifices. And it was the original Halloween.

The Druids believed, during Samhain, the mystic veil separating the dead from the living opened. The Druids taught these roaming spirits loosed on Samhain went searching for a body to possess. The frightened Celts would masquerade as demons, evil spirits and ghosts, hoping to convince the roaming evil spirits, they were another evil spirit, and leave them alone. The Celts also prepared meals as “treats” to appease the evil spirits from “tricks” or malicious acts; hence our custom of “trick or treat.” The Druids performed horrifying human sacrifices and other vile rituals during Samhain. Let there be no doubt—Samhain night was a terrifying “covenant with death, and with hell.” And let there be no doubt – Samhain was the original Halloween night.

All histories of Halloween inevitably wind back to the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain. . . (Skal, David J. Death Makes a Holiday: The Cultural History of Halloween, p. 20)

Halloween had its origins in the festival of Samhain among the Celts of ancient Britain and Ireland. (Encyclopedia Britannica 2005 “Halloween”)

Halloween can be traced directly back to Samhain, the ancient Celtic harvest festival honoring the Lord of the Dead. (Thompson, Sue Ellen. Holiday Symbols and Customs, p. 251)

The rituals of the Druids reek from the deepest hell. Their most repulsive activities involve their human sacrifices of children on the night of Samhain or Halloween.

First-born sacrifices are mentioned in a poem in the Dindshenchas, which records that children were sacrificed each Samhain . . . (Rogers, Nicholas. Halloween: From Pagan Ritual to Party Night, p. 17)

Halloween. That was the eve of Samhain . . . firstborn children were sacrificed. . . Samhain eve was a night of dread and danger. (National Geographic. May 1977, pp. 625-626)

The Druids would drink their victim’s blood and eat their flesh.

They [Druids] sacrificed victims by shooting them with arrows, impaling them on stakes, stabbing them, slitting their throats over cauldrons (and then drinking the blood). . . (Guiley, Rosemary Ellen. Harper’s Encyclopedia of Mystical & Paranormal Experience, p. 167)

Therefore we cannot too highly appreciate our debt to the Romans for having put an end to this monstrous cult, whereby to murder a man was an act of the greatest devoutness, and to eat his flesh most beneficial. (Pliny, Natural History, xxx, 13)

The Druids “counted it an honourable thing” to eat their father’s flesh and perform incest with their mothers and sisters.

. . . since they are man-eaters as well as heavy eaters, and since, further, they count it an honourable thing, when their fathers die, to devour them, and openly to have intercourse, not only with the other women, but also with their mothers and sisters;. . . (Strabo, Geography)

May I remind you, this is what occurred on the original Halloween night! Today, Halloween lives and breathes with the foul stench of the diabolical Druids.

The Druids also celebrated the festival of Beltane. The word Beltane (Beltaine, Beltinne, Beltain, Beiltein) literally means the “fires of Bel.” Bel is the same god called Baal, found over 80 times in the King James Bible. The Lord condemns Baal worship probably more than any other false “god.”

. . . then the Druids lit the Baal-Tinne, the holy, goodly fire of Baal. (Wilde, Lady Francesca Speranza. Ancient Legends, Mystic Charms, and Superstitions of Ireland)

The god whom the Druids worshipped was Baal, as the blazing Baal-fires show, and . . . children were offered in sacrifice to Baal. (Hislop, Alexander. The Two Babylons, p. 232)

• HALLOWEEN: BAAL WORSHIP •

The original Halloween was a hellish night of Baal worship and child sacrifice. And most of our current Halloween customs derived directly from Baal rituals!

On November first was Samhain [Halloween] . . . Fires were built as a thanksgiving to Baal. . . (Kelley, Ruth Edna, The Book of Hallowe’en, Lothrop, Lee and Shepard Co. Boston, 1919)

The mystic rites and ceremonies with which Hallow’en was originally observed had their origin among the Druids . . . ancient Baal festivals from which many of the Hallow’en customs are derived. (Douglas, George William. The American Book of Days, p. 569)

Baal is also a synonym for the devil. (Burns, Cathy. Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated, p. 327)

Halloween glorifies death in worship to Baal or the devil!

The Druid festival of Samhain was a celebration of death. Strutting its hellish death images of skulls, skeletons, ghosts, demons, devils and incarnate evil – today’s Halloween glorifies Death. David Skal titled his history of Halloween—Death Makes a Holiday:

The grand marshal of the Halloween parade is, and always has been, Death. (Skal, David J. Death Makes a Holiday: The Cultural History of Halloween, p. 18)

Halloween can be traced directly back to Samhain, the ancient Celtic harvest festival honoring the Lord of the Dead. (Thompson, Sue Ellen. Holiday Symbols and Customs, p. 251)

The Devil glorifies death. Hebrews 2:14 says, “. . . that through death he [Jesus] might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;” Proverbs 8:36 says all they that hate the Lord “. . . love death.” Revelation 6:8 says the rider of the antichrist’s pale horse, “. . . and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.”

• THE ORDINATION OF HALLOWEEN •

Understanding the hellish history of Halloween—why in the world did decent people so embrace it? What magic “trick” transformed rancid Samhain into the giddy Halloween?

As the Catholic missionaries swarmed Britain and Ireland seeking the mass conversion to Catholicism their orders from Pope Gregory in 601 A.D. was to cunningly convert the Druid rituals into Catholic rituals. The Catholics converted the ritual of Samhain into the festival of All Saint’s Day, a day of celebration and prayer to dead “Saints.”

Halloween begins well over 2,000 years ago in the British Isles. Here, we find the holiday stripped to its most essential element: a night when Celtic tribes communed with the spirits of the ancestral dead. These grand and glorious pagan celebrations were assimilated by the Catholic church. . . Rather than extinguish old customs, the church leaders provided Christian versions of them: from the Middles Ages on, All Saints’ Day and All Souls’ Day replaced the ancient Celtic celebrations of the dead. (Bannatyne, Lesley Pratt, Halloween: An American Holiday, an American History, Facts on File, Inc., New York, 1990 p. x)

The Catholic festival of All Saints Day was also known as All Hallows Day, with the word “hallow” replacing “saints.” The day before All Hallows Day (October 31) was recognized as All Hallows Eve. Eventually, All Hallows Eve became Hallows Eve; hallow’even; hallow’en and ultimately today’s Halloween.

All Saints’ Day perpetuated the pagan Samhain of November Eve. (Bonwick, James, Irish Druids and Old Irish Religions, Dorset Press, 1984 (1986ed), p.87)

Many traditional beliefs and customs associated with Samhain . . . continued to be practiced on 31 October, known as the Eve of All Saints, the Eve of All Hallows, or Hallows Even. It is the glossing of the name Hallow Even that has given us the name Hallowe’en. (Santino, Jack editor, Halloween and Other Festivals of Death and Life, The University of Tennessee Press, Knoxville, TN 1994 p. xvi)

In 835, Pope Gregory IV “blessed” All Saint’s Day as a sacred “day of obligation,” consequently on that day, the Catholic Church officially “ordained” Halloween. Halloween owes its very life and breath to the “blessing” of the Catholic Church. Samhain would have breathed its last breath many years ago if not for the “ordination” of the Catholic Church.

Few holidays have a stranger or more paradoxical history than Halloween. Technically, it is the vigil of All Saints Day, observed by Roman Catholics . . . Halloween has clear connections with the rites of the druidic priests. . . (Douglas, George William, revised by Helene Douglas Compton, The American Book of Days, The H.W. Wilson Company, New York, 1948, p. 741)

A perverse and blasphemous twist to Halloween concerns the name “Halloween.” The word “hallow” means “holy, sanctify or consecrate.” The popular Lord’s Prayer in Matthew 6:9 begins with, “. . . Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. . .” The label “hallow” belongs to God the Father—Hallowed be thy name. Halloween was a night sacrificing young children to the worship of Baal. It is no accident that the name of history’s most hellish night, glorifying “death and hell,” wears God the Father’s holy name of “hallow.” The blasphemous name of “Halloween” clearly bears the fingerprints of Lucifer as found in Isaiah 14:12, “. . . I will be like the most High.”

• THE OCCULT & HALLOWEEN •

While Halloween masquerades as childish fun and frolic, it’s serious business in the occult world. Witchcraft, Wicca, Satanism and paganism believe, on the night of Halloween, devils and spirits are unleashed. They perform their most hideous and potent rituals on the night of Halloween.

Samhain: This is the “Witch’s New Year” and the primary Sabbat from which all others flow. (RavenWolf, Silver. Teen Witch, p. 42)

Halloween is one of the four major Sabbats celebrated by the modern Witch, and it is by far the most popular and important of the eight that are observed. . . Witches regard Halloween as their New Year’s Eve, celebrating it with sacred rituals. . . (Dunwich, Gerina. The Pagan Book of Halloween, p. 120)

Halloween is also among Satanism’s most cherished days. Anton LaVey, founder of The Church of Satan and author of The Satanic Bible writes:

After one’s own birthday, the two major Satanic holidays are Walpurgisnacht (May 1st) and Halloween. (LaVey, Anton Szandor. The Satanic Bible, p. 96)

Satanic High Priestess Blanche Barton, on The Church of Satan web site, praises Halloween:

It [Halloween] gives even the most mundane people the opportunity to taste wickedness for one night. They have a chance to dance with the Devil . . . I see Satanists all over the world meeting in small groups this night and Hallowe’ens 500 years hence, to raise a glass to the Infernal Hosts. . .

The Satanic Calendar decrees for Halloween: “One of the two most important nights of the year. . . Blood and sexual rituals. Sexual association with demons. Animal and human sacrifice—male or female.” (www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/satanic_calendar.htm)

Former occultist Johanna Michaelsen reveals, “Halloween is also a prime recruiting season for Satanists.” (Michaelsen, Johanna. Like Lambs to the Slaughter, p. 192)

• THE ORNAMENTS OF HALLOWEEN •

The ornaments decorating Halloween came directly from the Druids and the occult.

The popular associations of Halloween are derived from ancient Celtic and Druid pagan religious customs. (Mather, George A. and Larry A. Nichols. Dictionary of Cults, Sects, Religions and the Occult, p. 237)

Samhain was a vital part of Celtic culture, its rituals were passed from generation to generation through the oral tradition of the Druids. The genesis of many of America’s Halloween traditions can be found in these ancient celebrations . . . (Bannatyne, Lesley Pratt, Halloween: An American Holiday, an American History, Facts on File, Inc., New York, 1990 p. 6)

WITCHES are the reigning Queen of Halloween. If you’ve been lullabied by the gospel of Halloween that witches are harmless folks, wake up, witches worship the devil:

In many instances, according to the confessions of the witches, besides their direct worship of the devil, they were obliged to show their abhorrence of the faith they had deserted by trampling on the cross, and blaspheming the saints, and by other profanations. (Spence, Lewis. An Encyclopedia of Occultism, p. 433)

The witches held a party at Hallowe’en and the women . . . sold their soul to the devil, would put a stick in their beds anointed with the fat of murdered babies. . .(Douglas, George William. The American Book of Days, p. 569)

Although witches vigorously protest they have no dealings with the devil, under the heading, “A Witch’s God,” the popular witch’s training manual, Witchcraft: Theory and Practice, plainly states:

A Witch’s God. . . He is . . . Lord of the Underworld [Hell] . . . He is named . . . Baphomet . . . Lucifer . . . Baal. . . (Angeles, Ly de. Witchcraft: Theory and Practice, p. 60)

The Lord God’s judgment upon witches should not be taken lightly.

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Exodus 22:18

JACK-O’-LANTERN: If Witches are the Queen of Halloween, the smiling jack-o’-lantern is the King. The demonic jack-o’-lantern leaves most historians baffled tracing its spooky origin. One popular tale, tells of Jack who tricked the devil in a deal for his soul. But the origin of the jack-o’-lantern is much more sinister. It arrives from the Druid’s ghastly reverence of the severed human head! They proudly decorated their houses and temples with bloody severed heads. The Druids believed the head housed the soul, hence the light or candle in the skull. The original jack-o’-lantern was not a pumpkin or turnip, but a severed human head!

Trophy, charm, or ornament, the human head figured prominently in Celtic life. Warriors hung enemy heads on their houses as a show of prowess, and Druids, believing that the head harbored the soul, placed skulls in sanctuaries to ward off evil. (National Geographic, May 1977, p. 603)

. . . they hang the heads of their enemies from the necks of their horses, and, when they have brought them home, nail the spectacle to the entrances of their homes. . .(Strabo, Geography)

It is believed that faces, rather than other images or symbols, were originally carved onto the pumpkin because they gave the jack-o’-lantern the look of a head. The Celts of ancient times believed that the head was the most sacred part of the human body, for it housed a person’s immortal soul. (Dunwich, Gerina. The Pagan Book of Halloween, p. 32)

. . . the jack-o’-lantern is generally presented in its traditional form as a festive euphemism for the death’s-head, the triangular nose hole and rictus grin being the “dead” giveaways. (Skal, David J. Death Makes a Holiday: The Cultural History of Halloween, p. 38)

Carved and illuminated by a candle, they are symbolic of death and the spirit world. (Thompson, Sue Ellen. Holiday Symbols and Customs, p. 256)

TRICK OR TREAT is another Druid inspired custom.

Every year on Halloween, many children throughout the world dress up in costumes and go door to door in a ritual known as trick or treating . . . unaware that their innocent masquerade is actually the remnants of a Druidic religious practice from times most ancient. (Dunwich, Gerina. The Pagan Book of Halloween, p. 11)

Whatever the wrinkles, the root assumption is the same: trick or treat had its beginning in the Celtic dawn. (Santino, Jack. Halloween and Other Festivals of Death and Life, p. 82)

MASKS & COSTUMES: Masks and costumes carry a long history in the occult and demon possession. Masks are contacts to the spirit world to invite the spirit to “possess” them.

In rituals, a person wearing a mask of a god or spirit often feels possessed by the supernatural being. . . (World Book 2005, p. 263)

The person wearing the mask feels internally transformed and takes on temporarily the qualities of the god or demon represented by the mask. (Biedermann, Hans. Dictionary of Symbolism, p. 218)

BAT: “One of the animal shapes commonly used by these demons (or “familiars,” as they were often called) was the bat. Bats and their blood were also used in the casting of spells (especially those of black magick), the brewing of potions. . .” (Dunwich, Gerina. The Pagan Book of Halloween, p. 29)

OWL: “On Halloween night, demons in the form of owls were said to have traveled with Witches and their cats . . . some were even believed to be Witches in disguise. . . (Interestingly, the owl was called a strix by the Romans—a word that means “Witch.”)” (Dunwich, Gerina. The Pagan Book of Halloween, p. 43)

“BLACK CATS were associated with darkness and death . . . they embodied demons who performed the witches’ task of maleficia against their neighbors. . . Black cats are said to be the devil himself.” (Guiley, Rosemary Ellen. The Encyclopedia of Witches and Witchcraft, p. 49)

APPLES: “The practice of bobbing for apples at a Halloween party comes form our Pagan ancestors, who highly valued apple magick.” (RavenWolf, Silver. Teen Witch, p. 42)

SKULL: “An interesting symbol, the skull . . . It is prominent in Witchcraft and Demon worship as a celebration of death.” (Burns, Cathy. Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated, p. 388)

The uneducated and ignorant will defend Halloween and call this fear mongering but when you really look into the origins of Halloween and some of the most powerful families in the world promoting it you see who is actually promoting fear and celebrating evil.

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IS THE GOVERNMENT’S NO JAB NO PAY POLICY TO BLAME FOR THE INCREASING DEATH RATE OF ABORIGINAL BABIES?

By Marelle Burnum Burnum & Uncle Max Dulumunmun Harrison

Infant mortality rate is an important marker of the overall health of society. It is defined as the number of deaths of children under one year of age per thousand live births.

According to the latest figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics, the number of infant deaths in the Northern Territory has risen 70% since 2014, a rate greater than Kuwait, Thailand and Costa Rica.

This rate increased from 6.52 deaths per thousand live births in 2014 to 9.56 in 2018, on par with America.The Health Department may try try blame the increase on factors such as car accidents, alcohol, and socio-economic and environmental factors. However, these factors have always been present.

‘Northern Territory Health downplays leap in infant deaths.’

Hayley Sorensen

Northern Territory News. October 7, 2019.

https://www.ntnews.com.au/news/nt-health-downplays-leap-in-infant-deaths/news-story/ae03fc57fcac0ce1e606410211a596b2

The No Jab No Pay Policy was imposed by the Liberal/National Government in January 2016, coercing low income indigenous Australians to vaccinate or lose government benefits and payments. With no accurate Vaccine Register, no active surveillance system and no mandatory reporting of adverse events, the Government cannot claim or prove that this policy is not contributing to the increasing infant deaths.

Indigenous children are pressed to have 5 more vaccines than white Australians. This should be immediately investigated as a possible cause of the increase in indigenous infant mortality.

The 3-year-review, recommended at the 2015 No Jab No Pay Senate Inquiry, on the IMPACTS of the No Jab coercive policy, has NOT been conducted as promised.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Community_Affairs/No_Jab_No_Pay/Report/b01

We demand that this happens immediately. Children are dying.

Our most vulnerable Indigenous babies can have poor nutritional status, coupled with low Vitamin C and D. This was well documented by Dr Archie Kalokerinos over a generation ago, and was shown to be linked with infant deaths post vaccination.

https://alternative-doctor.com/dr-archie-kalokerinos/

https://soilandhealth.org/copyrighted-book/every-second-child/

In fact, we believe that it is TIME to look at the IMPACT of multiple vaccinations on ALL babies and children in Australia. It Is time to do the research on the ever increasing vaccine schedule and its assault on vulnerable and underdeveloped immune systems.

We strongly believe that INDEPENDENT SCIENCE is urgently needed to see what the medical intervention of vaccination is doing to all children.

Marelle Burnum Burnum and Uncle Max Dulumunmun Harrison

AN IMPORTANT STATEMENT FROM UNCLE MAX DULUMUNMUN HARRISON

‘Uncle Max Dulumunmun Harrison and the late Dr Archie Kalokerinos.’

Uncle Max Dulumunmun Harrison continues to support the work of his late friend, Dr Archie Kalokerinos, who wrote the book, ‘Every Second Child’.

The book title refers to the fact that every second indigenous child either experienced death or injury as a result of vaccination.

Uncle Max and Archie spoke at seminars together and had many discussions about the nutritional status of indigenous children.

When indigenous children were given a vaccination, combined with their low Vitamin C and VitamIn D status, it had catastrophic effects leading to a high death rate in the aboriginal communities.

This led Dr Kalokerinos to administer Vitamin C to indigenous children BEFORE vaccination to help reduce the mortality rate. To this day, we revere his work and realise that the nutritional status of indigenous children is of paramount importance.

No consideration is given today to this vital factor, prior to vaccination. Parents are not educated or informed of these risks.

A Royal Commission into the safety and efficacy of vaccines with regards to geneology and nutritional status needs to be conducted.

Uncle Max Dulumunmun Harrison

3.5.19

For more information see the following article and the link to Dr Archie’s book below:

Dr Archie Kalokerinos

From Dr. Keith Scott-Mumby

The Alternative Doctor.

https://alternative-doctor.com/dr-archie-kalokerinos/

‘Every Second Child,’ by Dr Archie Kalokerinos.

https://soilandhealth.org/copyrighted-book/every-second-child/

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2019 CANBERRA VACCINATION CONFERENCE TALKS

On September 15 2019 concerned citizens  across Australia attended the sold out 2019 CANBERRA VACCINATION CONFERENCE

Judy Wilyman PhD Citizens for Health Awareness. Perth Senate candidate Involuntary Medication Objectors (Vaccination/Fluoride) Party (IMOP). http://vaccinationdecisions.net/

Allona Lahn from Healthier Communities and IMOP Senate Candidate Queensland spoke  about ‘Ground zero and the future.’

Michael O’Neill Founder and NSW Senate candidate IMOP spoke about ‘Medical apartheid in Australia.’ http://www.imoparty.com

Taylor Winterstein  Informed Choice Advocate spoke about ‘How can we change the media narrative about parents who want vaccine choice?’ www.tayswaymovement.com.au

Tristan Wells speaks about “How to deal with online pro-vax trolls.”

CANBERRA PROTEST! SAY NO TO MANDATORY VACCINATION AUSTRALIA!

CANBERRA PROTEST!

SAY NO TO MANDATORY VACCINATION AUSTRALIA!

MONDAY

SEPTEMBER 16, 2019

10 am – 2 pm

(Set up from 8 am)

Parliament House, Federation Mall

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Called AAA Security Area

Come and join with the leaders of Australian vaccine-choice groups.

Join with them as they make a stand against ALL mandatory and coercive government vaccination policies.

Let’s continue to raise a tsunami of opposition against discrimination of unvaccinated children with the current No Jab No Pay and Play legislations.

A large crowd places pressure on politicians to look at the serious and urgent health issues these legislations have caused.

Medical freedom is a right for all Australians!

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Allona Lahn

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And many others…

Children and babies welcome!

Masks and placards available at the protest.

Permission has been given for masks and costumes be worn in this security area.

Event will be filmed.

No structures allowed e.g. no marquees or tables.

Keep it light.

Picnic blankets, eskies, prams, hand-held placards, fold-out camping chairs, card tables ok (small 1 m x 1 m approx), hand-held umbrellas if needed.

JOIN US AND SAY…

– No to injecting neurotoxins

– No to aborted fetal DNA fragments

– No to a liability-free product

– No to children’s brains and immune systems being damaged

– No to pharmaceutical profit over health

– No to government and media propaganda and lies

– No to discrimination AGAINST and EXCLUDING those who know better…

References for above

1. ‘Where are Australia’s vaccines made?’

Judy Wilyman PhD

Where are Australia’s Vaccines Made?

2. Vaccine ingredients – FDA Inserts for each product

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/vaccines-licensed-use-united-states

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THE 2019 CANBERRA VACCINATION CONFERENCE

BREAKING NEWS!

THE 2019 CANBERRA VACCINATION CONFERENCE IS HERE! 

WHY AUSTRALIA MUST SAY NO TO MANDATORY AND COERCIVE VACCINATION POLICIES.

#2019CVC

Although vaccination is not compulsory in Australia, the current climate has made it increasingly difficult to object to this medical procedure. A procedure that actually has well established risks.

The Australian media, Liberal, Labor and Greens parties are all united in their war to vilify and discredit vaccine objectors and parents of vaccine-injured children. 

The Australian government has recently allocated $12 million towards an advertising campaign and research to address vaccine objectors.

Doctors and nurses are banned from speaking out about vaccine safety concerns. They can lose their registration/licence if they do. Parents who choose not to fully vaccinate feel they are treated like criminal, neglectful parents.

There is an urgent call worldwide to establish a much higher standard for vaccine testing, for both effectiveness and safety. We must demand double-blind controlled trials with only inert placebos for all vaccines, and this must be done BEFORE they are licenced and approved for sale. All testing needs to be done over years, not days.

Pharmaceutical drugs are subject to a higher, more rigorous level of testing than vaccines. This is because vaccines are classified as biologics, not drugs.

We need the best for our children! We also need to establish thorough, legal informed consent before ALL vaccination procedures.

So come and hear a fantastic line-up of speakers on this very important issue!

SUNDAY 15 SEPTEMBER, 2019

CANBERRA AREA

4 – 7 pm

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▶Judy Wilyman PhD.

Citizens for Health Awareness.

Perth Senate candidate Involuntary Medication Objectors (Vaccination/Fluoride) Party (IMOP).

Home

http://www.imoparty.com

‘The corruption of the political process and vaccination science.’

Dr Wilyman’s 2015 thesis is on the University of Wollongong website:

‘A critical analysis of the Australian government’s rationale for its vaccination policy.’

https://ro.uow.edu.au/theses/4541/

▶Taylor Winterstein 

Informed Choice Advocate 

http://www.tayswaymovement.com.au

‘How can we change the media narrative about parents who want vaccine choice?’ 

▶Michael O’Neill

Founder and NSW Senate candidate IMOP.

http://www.imoparty.com

‘Medical apartheid in Australia.’

▶Allona Lahn

Healthier Communities.

IMOP Senate Candidate Queensland.

Home

http://www.imoparty.com

‘Ground zero and the future.’

▶Marelle Burnum Burnum

Health care professional.

Rights for Ethical Choice.

NSW senate candidate IMOP.

http://www.imoparty.com

‘Building immunity safely.’

▶Tristan Wells 

‘How to deal with online trolls.’

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Family Package 2 Adults /2 Children $50 

Children under 5 FREE

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WHERE ARE AUSTRALIAN VACCINES MADE?

Judy Wilyman PhD

Where are Australia’s Vaccines Made?

VACCINE INGREDIENTS

FDA vaccine inserts

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/vaccines-licensed-use-united-states

 

YOUR CHILDREN. YOUR CHOICE.

5 minute video

Australia has a political party against mandatory Vaccines and Fluoride

THE INVOLUNTARY MEDICATION OBJECTORS (VACCINATION/FLUORIDE) PARTY
(IMOP) WILL STAND AT THE MAY 18, 2019 AUSTRALIAN FEDERAL ELECTION
AGAINST ANY FORM OF FORCED MEDICATION.
VACCINESHOLDRISKS
IMOP believes that the medical freedoms of Australians are at risk
like never before in history.

IMOP will protect the rights of Australians to refuse any medical
procedure or product, without being subjected to any form of coercion.

IMOPS PRINCIPLE PLATFORMS ARE AS FOLLOWS:

* NO FORCED MEDICATION
* NO COMPULSORY OR COERCED VACCINATION
* NO FLUORIDE IN OUR WATER

IMOP believes that your medical choices should not restrict you from
childcare access, government benefits or career choices.

The founder of IMOP, Michael O’Neill, says, “The introduction of the
No Jab No Pay/Play policies was a dramatic turn in the wrong direction
for our democratic country. It overrode our constitutional freedom and
was against the experiences many were having with vaccines. I looked
at the political parties and found none that were willing to take a
stand on this issue, so decided to be involved – as a voice for an
ignored and vilified section of our community.”

IMOP will establish urgent independent government inquiries into the
current Australian vaccination and fluoride programs. Importantly,
IMOP will investigate the heavy influence the pharmaceutical industry
has had on both our media and government in establishing the No Jab No
Pay/Play policies.

Through our representatives, including Dr Judy Wilyman PhD, we will
work to establish a completely independent government vaccine advisory
board to assess all vaccine science. It will be made up of members who
have no financial conflicts of interest with the vaccine industry.
Until now, politicians and media have been getting their information
from studies funded by the vaccine industry itself! ( See Dr Judy
Wilyman PhD, University of Wollongong.
https://ro.uow.edu.au/theses/4541/)

View our 2019 Australian IMOP Campaign Launch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-XY_FoT6BU&t=640s

IMOP WILL ALSO STAND ON THE FOLLOWING PLATFORMS:
° We will represent the people and not the large corporations.
° We will support sustainable green energy.
° We will stop the poisoning of our food, environment and planet
through chemicals, pesticides, insecticides, GMOs, glyphosate and 5G.
° We will support natural medicines, including medicinal cannabis.
° We will support natural health therapy choice and all natural
birthing choices.
° We will encompass people’s cultural heritage, traditional health
practices and respect religious beliefs.
° We will work to stop enforced institutionalisation and drugging.

IMOP GROUP
OUR CANDIDATES FOR THE 2019 FEDERAL ELECTION ARE AS FOLLOWS:

WESTERN AUSTRALIA
Candidates for the Senate –
Dr Judy Wilyman PhD
Michelle Kinsella

NEW SOUTH WALES
Candidates for the Senate –
Michael O’Neill, Party Secretary
Marelle Burnum Burnum

Candidate for the Lower House –
Tom Barnett – Standing for the Richmond electorate

QUEENSLAND
Candidates for the Senate –
Allona Lahn
Adam Rowe

IMOP CULTURAL ADVISER
Max (Dulumunmun) Harrison

https://imoparty.com/
https://www.facebook.com/IMOParty/

MEDIA INQUIRIES:
Michael O’Neill
press@imoparty.com

THE INVOLUNTARY MEDICATION OBJECTORS (VACCINATION/FLUORIDE) PARTY (IMOP)

 

The war on the ‘anti-vaxx’ movement has been declared! Just the facts:

“The war on the ‘anti-vaxx’ movement has been declared!

Just the facts:

1. In January 2019, the WHO announced that the ‘anti-vaccination movement’ was one of the 10 biggest threats to health in the world in 2019. Since then, the war against the ‘anti-vaxx’ movement began to gain momentum.

2. Congressman Adam Schiff has sent an open letter to Mark Zuckerberg asking him to limit ‘anti-vaxx misinformation’ on Facebook and Instagram.

The American medical Association has sent an open letter to the Directors General of Amazon, Facebook, Google, Pinterest, Twitter and YouTube, asking them to come up with specific steps to limit anti-vaccination rhetoric.

The American Academy of Paediatrics has sent a similar letter to the Directors General of Google, Facebook and Pinterest. It appears that a certain Dr. Sue Desmond-Hellman sits on the Board of Facebook. See here under Board of Directors:

https://investor.fb.com/corporate-governance/default.aspx

If you look at her profile on Facebook, you learn that she is also CEO of the Gates Foundation, among other positions:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/suedesmondhellmann/about/?ref=page_internal

3. Facebook will no longer show ‘anti-vaccination’ pages and groups in recommendations and search results, and are also limiting the display of ‘anti-vaccination’ materials in the news feed.

4. Instagram has blocked ‘anti-vaxx’ hashtags.

5. YouTube has demonetised ‘anti-vaxx’ channels.

6. Pinterest now removes all information against vaccinations, branding this ‘hate crime’, and blocks users who publish it.

7. Amazon is removing ‘anti-vaxx’ films, including Vaxxed, and live streaming of such content. Books with non-conventional methods of treatment for autism and vaccine damage are no longer available.

8. GoFundMe, a crowdfunding platform, has banned fundraising for ‘anti-vaccination’ purposes.

9. Etsy has banned the sale of ‘anti-vaccination’ products.

10. One of the counties in New York state has banned MMR-unvaccinated children from visiting public places for 30 days, just because 150 cases of measles have been rerecorded there since November 2018.

Parents, whose unvaccinated children show up in public places, will be fined $500 or sentenced to jail.”

– Anonymous author

Fran Kelly and Ariel Bogle discussing ‘anti-vaccination’ on Radio National.

Here is a transcript of Fran Kelly and Ariel Bogle discussing ‘anti-vaccination’ on Radio National, Thursday 7 March 2019:

Some Australians have taken it upon themselves to combat the messages of the anti-vaccination community on facebook, where it still thrives: https://radio.abc.net.au/programitem/pgmVyq0qeV?play=true

Fran Kelly: This week a Danish study refuted again the notion that the MMR vaccination, which protects against measles, mumps and rubella, has no association with an increased risk of autism. But misinformation about vaccines of all types continues to thrive on social media. Some Australians have taken it upon themselves to combat these messages of the anti-vaccination community on facebook. Ariel Bogle is a technology reporter with the ABC Science Unit, and our regular tech-head, hi Ariel.

Ariel Bogle: Morning Fran.

Fran Kelly: So you’ve spent some time talking to these volunteers who fight vaccine misinformation on facebook. Why do they do it, and is it working, does it work for them?

Ariel Bogle: Well I think these people in general feel a passion, they want to protect children and they find the messages of the anti-vaccination community anti-science and dangerous. But there are a few different tactics out there. I spoke to one guy associated with a page called Refutations to Anti-vaccination Memes. And memes are of course those little images you see all over the internet, with images and jokes. And so this page is just full of jokes about vaccination, sometimes on the verge, you know, on the verge of brutal about the anti-vaccination movement. And he told me the goal is really to make fun of the anti-vax leaders, who he says profits from these types of messages, and to marginalise them, make it unpopular and laughable to be anti-vaccination for children. Another group, is called the Stop the Anti, Stop the Australian Anti-vaccination Network, is more around a group of doctors trying to lobby against allowing some of these key anti-vaccination groups to thrive in Australia. They lobby against when anti-vax leaders come and try to tour Australia, these types of actions.

Fran Kelly: Let’s hear from one of the more infamous anti-vaxxers, Sherri Tenpenny, her videos get millions of views on facebook.

Sherri Tenpenny: So it’s aluminium and chemicals in all these vaccines, antigens, all these viruses and bacteria, stray viruses that are known to cause cancer, you know all kinds of gobbledygook inside of these things. And I think that most parents, and even most physicians, who’ve never bothered to read a package insert in their life, think that all that is in there is a little bit of sterile water, a little bit of attenuated or killed virus, that’s it, how can it hurt you?

Fran Kelly: That’s anti-vaxxer Sherri Tenpenny on facebook. And that’s the sort of thing that gets people upset, and many experts point to facebook and YouTube as key culprits in the spread of this health misinformation. Are these platforms doing anything about this, do they see they have a role in this?

Ariel Bogle: Well of course fears around vaccination are not new to the world, but the internet has seemed to inflame them, those algorithms on YouTube and facebook that, you know, addicted to controversy, addicted to things where people get upset and have fears, they really thrive off that. And they are taking action to an extent. But I found on facebook, even last week, that facebook was still accepting paid ads from some of the key anti-vaccination groups in Australia. Facebook says they know they need to do more, they have more work to do, and that they plan to announce a new actions. But other platforms are taking action. So YouTube for example has removed advertising from anti-vaccination pages so they can’t make money from advertising on some of those popular videos. And Pinterest interestingly, Pinterest is a social media network where you post, you know, images you like and recipes and things like that, they have cracked down on search around vaccination. So if you go onto Pinterest and search for vaccination or some other key terms there, they won’t return results for good or ill, and that’s their tactic.

Fran Kelly: Ok. What’s the best way to push back against these fears of vaccination?

Ariel Bogle: When you talk to doctors, and I did for my story today, it’s in person. These types of messages really are best countered in direct personal relationships between nurses and doctors and parents, because it’s not invalid to have questions and fears, but those fears can be addressed. And while there are plenty of people, volunteers on facebook, doing the work that maybe facebook should be doing to counter these messages there, I think that in some cases they maybe just talking to the already convinced, talking to people in their own bubble. And sometimes those interactions with anti-vaxxers can be antagonistic. And that might just feed into the persecution complex, or the conspiracy theory complex of these people.

Fran Kelly: As you say, all those mocking memes.

ABC Radio vaccine interview with Robert Booy fails to disclose pharmaceutical conflicts of interest

Emails from Elizabeth Hart of Over Vaccination https://over-vaccination.net to Richard Glover regarding an interview on ABC radio which was broadcast on Monday 4 March 2019.

(6 March 2019) Mr Glover, re your recent interview with Robert Booy re vaccination.

You did not disclose Robert Booy’s conflicts of interest, e.g. that he is Chairman of the industry-funded Immunisation Coalition which is funded by vaccine manufacturers GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer, Sanofi Pasteur and Seqirus.

Please note vaccination policy is a complicated area, it’s not just about measles vaccination. The taxpayer-funded ABC is failing to provide critical analysis of vaccination policy and government-mandated vaccination. There is much that the community is being kept in the dark on this matter, e.g. the conflicts of interest that surround vaccination policy. For some information on this matter see below the referenced transcript of my interview on radio station 2ser which also includes reference to Robert Booy. It’s about time the ABC lifted its game and investigated the lucrative and burgeoning taxpayer-funded vaccination schedule.

(8 March 2019) Mr Glover, further to my previous email relevant to the politics of vaccination…

The ABC and other media reports that “a Danish study refuted once again the notion that the MMR vaccination, which protects against measles, mumps and rubella, has no association with an increased risk of autism”.

As per usual, commentary and analysis on this subject was facile, e.g. the discussion between the ABC’s Fran Kelly and Ariel Bogle: https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/tech-with-ariel-bogle/10878214

Given your own strong stance on vaccination policy Mr Glover, and your privileged position of being able to influence public discussion, perhaps you might be open-minded and interested enough to read some criticism of the Danish Study?

Comments are being published on the paper’s webpage (Click on the ‘comments’ section in the column on the left-hand side): https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2727726/measles-mumps-rubella-vaccination-autism-nationwide-cohort-study

Click here to access a copy of the comments posted so far on this Danish Study. I suggest it is important to keep an open mind on this matter Mr Glover, and allow free discussion, not censorship as campaigned for my coercive vaccination lobby groups such as SAVN and Friends of Science in Medicine…

Elizabeth Hart

Please see below a transcript of the recent radio interview relevant to the current measles scares going on around the world, and also possibly timed to coincide with the latest publication purporting to debunk the MMR / autism link: https://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/2727726/measles-mumps-rubella-vaccination-autism-nationwide-cohort-study

This interview was broadcast on Monday 4 March 2019, and audio can be accessed via this webpage, starting at around 54.40: https://www.abc.net.au/radio/sydney/programs/drive/drive/10848602

And can be heard on YouTube here

See transcript below:

Richard Glover: G’day, Richard Glover with you on ABC Radio Sydney. Today, how the world lost its way on vaccination. And are people right to say Australia might have the answers? We’ll take an expert view on that first up…

Resume at 54.40

Richard Glover: Well, you’ve got to hand it to the human race, we seem to have the ability to grab defeat from the jaws of victory. An example, our attitude to vaccines. What a gift when they were developed. With their help, death from infectious diseases fell all over the world. Some diseases even disappeared entirely. Witness that great Wikipedia entry on smallpox, which begins “Smallpox was a disease which…” etc, etc, etc. Now though, thanks partly to the rise of anti-vaccination movements, there’s an alarming global surge of diseases such as measles. Just today, the international body UNICEF, noted a boom in measles in countries around the world. In Ukraine 30,000 cases. In the Philippines,13,000. Another 10,000 in Brazil, which used to have no cases at all. Even in the United States, a congressional subcommittee has met to discuss measle outbreaks in New York, Texas, Illinois and Washington State, where the governor has recently declared a state of emergency. This for a disease believed to have been eliminated in the US at the turn of the millenium. Well what to do? Some foreign observers are citing Australia as an example of a country that is winning the battle through changes in public policy. Just yesterday, an article in The Times, London, cited Australia’s vaccination requirements for children enrolling in school and the ability to withhold family benefits as crucial bits of public policy. So what is the Australian model, has it really made a difference, and could it be an inspiration to others? Well, Professor Robert Booy is from the National Centre for Immunisation Research & Surveillance, and joins us here in the studio. Good afternoon.

Robert Booy: Good afternoon Richard.

Richard Glover: These figures must be so alarming to a person like you?

Robert Booy: Well, I’ve come to expect them. I’ve been in the field for decades. And I was there 20 years ago when we announced elimination of measles from the US. I was there five years ago when we announced elimination of measles from Australia. So these are things that ah we have to fight against. Measles is so contagious. You have to have 19 out of 20 people to be immune to be sure of stopping it in its tracks, stopping it from transmitting. So it’s going to come back, but in little ways. You know, there used to be there were thousands and thousands every year or two. Now it’s, you know the US is very upset about having a hundred cases, so it’s, it’s on the scale of things, much less, but it is something that’s really hard to totally nail down.

Richard Glover: Ok. Some listeners might remember, older listeners, listeners of my age, of having measles when they were growing up, you know maybe no big deal. But of course in some cases there are complications and there are deaths. I mentioned the Philippines, well they’ve had 203 deaths in the last year.

Robert BooyWithout a doubt measles can kill. About 1 in a thousand. That’s in Europe as well. So it’s not just in poorer countries that have not as good medical care, it’s all over the world, one in a thousand. And a similar number get left with very severe encephalitic brain damage. Whether that’s acutely, or it occurs some years later. You can really get bad damage from measles. Not only kill you, it can give you pneumonia, and give you ear infections. Most people recover ok though.

Richard Glover: We’ve got some countries in which it was virtually eliminated, and now it’s back. Is this mainly due to anti-vaccination movements?

Robert Booy: It think that’s a contributor, but not the main one. Travellers from Australia have been to Asia, have been to the US, to Europe, and they’ve brought it back with them. It’s actually people who aren’t immunised. If you’re a teenager or an adult, and you’re travelling, you’ve got to make sure you’ve had two doses of vaccine, against MMR, against measles, mumps, rubella, and that provides very strong protection, you won’t catch it overseas, and you won’t bring it back, you won’t spread it in your community. So we have the biggest risk, I believe, from travellers, but to a lesser extent, those who deny vaccination, they’re hesitant, they’re worried, they think it’s going to damage them in some way, they do contribute. You mentioned earlier that we’ve got an approach in Australia, No Jab, No Pay / No Jab, No Play, there’s a governmental changes that occurred at both the state and the national level. Well we’ve only had a 1.4 percent increase in vaccine uptake, so we’ve gone from something like 93 to 94 and a half. So it’s been an improvement, but there’s a lot of other things that are going on, I’d happily describe them to you.

Richard Glover: Ok. So I mean, I ask that partly because there are all these overseas commentators who are looking to us. You’d say the Australian stuff has worked but don’t think it’s some sort of panacea?

Robert BooyNo it’s not a panacea, because there’s a bunch of other really good things that have been happening. A colleague of mine at the University of Sydney, Julie Leask, is working with the WHO around this whole question of hesitancy. How we can reassure parents, and give them the information they need to stop them from worrying, and allow their children to be vaccinated.

Richard Glover: Ok, but that must be frustrating for doctors, because in a way it all comes down to this one article in The Lancet magazine, 1998, I think it was. Absolutely disproved now, The Lancet itself has withdrawn it. And yet that’s what caused the panic.

Robert BooyIt’s crazy. I was there then in London and I was one of the people who wrote immediately to The Lancet to say this is rubbish research. And yet it took a decade to get rid of.Look, things like that, people grab onto. They want to believe it. We have to listen to them, we have to understand them. And we have to take approaches that are more than just giving the facts.

Richard Glover: Ok, I suppose you’re saying we should understand that parental anxiety is a pretty important, pretty central part of being a parent isn’t it?

Robert Booy: You bet.

Richard Glover: And if you put an anxious idea into people’s head, you know, you do need to work at it to remove it. All the same, you know this is often a middle-class thing, it’s a thing that for instance, these north coast of New South Wales, socially progressive communities, seem to have particularly embraced it. These are communities where in most of their behaviour, they’re pro-science, they’re people who believe in global warming, and they’re mostly in their behaviour mainly very pro-community too, they believe in, not in some sort of idea of individualism, but of community action. And yet on this policy, they seem to behave entirely the opposite way on both those things!

Robert Booy: Yeah, it’s perplexing. I had the opportunity to go to Byron Bay ten years ago to meet with parents, to speak one on one with parents for an hour. Most of the ones I spoke to were very happy after they’d had it all explained to…And then they become pro-immunisation and they become the zealots and the evangelists for immunisation. So you can change things. There are a small proportion, maybe one or two percent, where you just can’t convince them, and you’re better off not trying, because you’ll just waste each other’s time.

Richard Glover: Ok. So, you know, proper, reasoned, kindly discussion is important. But the No Play, or No Pay, No Jab, No Play, No Jab, No Pay, these are important too aren’t they?

Robert BooyLook, they’ve made a contribution, but the only measurement we have is that it’s gone up by about 1.4 percent overall.

Richard Glover: That’s not bad though is it?

Robert Booy: It’s not bad…

Richard Glover: …You explain the science to me a bit, I keep on hearing these figures of 94 percent, 95 percent, something like that, that gets you herd immunity. So the difference between 90 and 95 might be everything?

Robert Booy: Well, there isn’t a magic tip over point. For every community it’s slightly different. And to imagine that, if we could only go from 94 to 95 would make a massive difference, is not a truism, it’s not correct. Actually, we’re already getting good herd immunity at 90, 91, 92, it’s just improving each time. And you know you might be able to argue there’s a tipping point. But then new babies are born who aren’t immune and then it changes immediately.

Richard GloverI think one of the attractions of the Australian policy and I get this through overseas eyes, is that in places like England where they’ve got really no public policy controls at all, they’re either looking at two things. One, is this Australian model, whereby you use things like school rules and payment of family tax benefit and that sort of thing to try to encourage people. The other model is the European model, a third of the countries in Europe apparently, it’s mandatory, so absolutely hardline. You’ve got to do it.

Robert BooyYeah, mandatory approaches have been tried on and off for a hundred and fifty or more years, and it does create opposition. So it’s not always the panacea you’re looking for, it can actually be problematic. I worked in the UK for fifteen years, I ran a study which vaccinated 20,000 children in the Oxford community, we got 95% uptake, with an unlicensed vaccine.Why? Because the nurse and I went round, listened to people, educated them, and this was in the 90s, so maybe things have changed. But just simple information, providing information that is credible. And, you know, you’re on call 24 hours a day, and so if there’s a concern, you answer the concern. And we got a great outcome.

Richard Glover: That is the best way you say. I mean, having said that, are you an opponent of the No Play, No Pay? You sound as if you’re kind of unsure about it?

Robert BooyYeah, I’m a bit on the fence. I’ve always felt that caring about people and the information you provide was the key, and then the No Pay, No Play may add a little bit.

Richard Glover: Yeah, alright. But at a time when places like the Ukraine, Philippines, Brazil, you just wish them, whatever method they’re going to use, they’ve got to find some way of providing it. Because in some countries the problem is actually provision rather than anti-vaxxers, it must be said. Both providing it, and somehow, whether through laws, or whether through that sort of sweet-talking you’re talking about, somehow confronting this movement.

Robert Booy: Yeah,you’ve hit the nail on the head actually about access, and about providing it. The biggest change we’ve been able to make is improving access. Having clinics late in the day, on the weekend. So, there’s been the bigger gap, that’s been, you know, three percent, whereas, you know, one and half percent might be the people who are dead-set vaccine anti.

Richard Glover: Ok. So if they’re looking at the Australian model so-called, yes, look at the changes to Family Tax Benefit A and all of that, but also look at the Australian model being about provision, access and…

Robert Booy: Yep, you bet…

Richard Glover: …and actual, you know, debate, discussion, information.

Robert Booy: Yeah, and you know some really smart minds in social science are in Australia leading the way in working out how to provide support first of all to health professionals, and then to parents. (My emphasis.)

Richard GloverOk. Get that stick out, but get the carrot out whilst you’re at it. Professor Robert Booy, thank you very much for coming in and talking to us.

Robert Booy: You’re very welcome.

Richard GloverProfessor Robert Booy is from the National Centre for Immunisation Research & Surveillance at the University of Sydney. Yeah, UNICEF among others, get very worried about this upsurge in measles around the world. You’re listening to ABC Radio Sydney.

Finishes around 1.05.55

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